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Hey folks,
Katie Phang is back on Breaking Bread and we covered a lot of emotional ground in this one — from the chaos of cable news and “platforming” Trump-world figures, to navigating MAGA relatives at Thanksgiving, to Katie taking her kiddo to Anne Frank’s house and the D-Day beaches so she understand what democracy really costs. This one gets personal, thoughtful, and honestly pretty tender at times.
Here’s what we get into:
[00:01:07] Why we still make content “even if only five people like it,” the joy of independent media, and how YouTube/Substack lets us go deep instead of chasing soundbites.
[00:04:01] Katie’s take on Abby Phillip having Katie Miller on CNN, the whole “platforming” debate, and what it really means to sit at the table with people who don’t share your politics.
[00:10:02] Thanksgiving with MAGA family members, setting boundaries to protect your peace, and what it looks like to decide not to let politics destroy your relationships.
[00:20:12] Katie’s trip with her daughter to the Anne Frank House and the D-Day beaches, how those moments imprint on our kids, and why we keep fighting to defend democracy even when we’re exhausted.
[00:27:03] Top five American cities, hating winter in Chicago, the heaviness of the holidays, and remembering that not every family moment has to look like a Hallmark movie to be real and meaningful.
If you care about honest, human conversations about politics, family, media, and how we raise our kids in this wild moment, I think this one will land for you. We’re trying to model what it looks like to disagree, stay present, and still choose each other — and your support is what keeps that possible. If you value conversations like this, help me keep them going.
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With urgency,
—Mike
