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Breaking Bread: What to Do With All This Rage — with Mike Nellis and Katie Phang

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Hey folks,

This week’s Breaking Bread hit deep. Katie Phang and I showed up raw and real to talk about what it means to live—and parent—through this relentless moment in American history. We got personal. We got emotional. And we made space to be human in the midst of everything:

  • [00:01:00] Katie opens up about the emotional toll of constant political vigilance and what it’s doing to her day-to-day life

  • [00:04:00] I describe what it feels like on the ground in Chicago as ICE activity escalates and communities brace for raids

  • [00:10:53] We shift gears to talk about burnout, guilt, and why self-care isn’t optional if we want to stay in this fight

  • [00:20:55] A small parenting moment from my son stops me in my tracks—and reminds me why this work matters so much

  • [00:28:39] Katie reflects on how she’s seeking grounding through history, self-awareness, and choosing to stay awake

If you’ve been carrying around anger, fear, or guilt lately—this conversation is a must-watch. You’re not alone. We’re building something here that’s honest, accountable, and emotionally grounded in the now. If that resonates with you, I hope you’ll join us as a paid subscriber to Endless Urgency.

With urgency,

—Mike

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