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Kelly A's avatar

I mean, are we surprised?

Mike Nellis's avatar

Nope, still mad though

Kelly A's avatar

Beyond mad, quite frankly. Infuriated, disgusted, and I keep wondering… are the women without families? Maybe they are but if not, wouldn’t they be talking to the media in outrage?

Matthew Anderson's avatar

Not necessarily! It may not be politically wise nor personally safe to do so! Do you understand really how dangerous, criminal, and highly placed these accusations truly reach? Trump and Clinton’s possibility of being deeply involved is only the tip of the iceberg! If billionaires openly own the Supreme Court, then all bets are off anyway…and they do!

Kelly A's avatar

I see your point. I guess I don’t think I could be quiet if it were my daughter. That’s really where my head has been. These people must be held accountable for their atrocities, not given puppies in “prison.” Did you hear one of Prince Andrew’s women speaking? She said Maxwell set it all up, took her shopping, told her she had to do the same things with Andrew as with Epstein. Maxwell needs to go back to a real prison.

Jane M McKee's avatar

I believe some have been threatened as well as family members by powerful people and are afraid to release more information right now. Dictators are scary people!!

Kelly A's avatar

That makes sense too. I mean, it should not be the responsibility of the survivors or their families to press this issue - don’t get me wrong. I just think that as much as we all have run out of patience, can you imagine being them or their families?? The system goes into action overnight to stop SNAP but has been 11 months now since the guy who ran on the issue of releasing the files has acted like he can’t do anything about it without Congress. Ughh!!!

Joseph Folz's avatar

Did anyone with a brain know this all along?

Mary McAvoy's avatar

It doesn't matter that those of us who know are not surprised.

What matters is the Trump supporters. Some will be surprised,

others can no longer pretend or deflect or lie about it.

A reckoning will happen. ...I hope.

At long GD last, we'll get to throw the scum in jail.

CoffeeCat's avatar

I am pretty confident a Republican will retract their momentary strength of spine.

Matthew Anderson's avatar

Wrong…this is as close to total control of the American people since the turn of the last “robber baron” century! Then they had no billionaires! Now the nation bows down to roughly 800 in America alone if my numbers are close and my memory serves me well!

Gregg Mackie's avatar

Why oh why was Katie Couric and George Stephanopoulos chumming it up, and having dinner with Jeffrey Epstein at his home in 2010, AFTER he pleaded guilty to solicitation of sex with a minor? There's no such thing as a minor prostitute, it's called R*PE! 😡

Gregg Mackie's avatar

Why oh why was Katie Couric and George Stephanopoulos chumming it up, and having dinner with Jeffrey Epstein at his home in 2010, AFTER he pleaded guilty to solicitation of sex with a minor? There's no such thing as a minor prostitute, it's called R*PE! 😡

LuciaRegan's avatar

Regarding the Epstein files. My advice to democrats and the two republicans:

“Move Fast and Break Things”.

Edie Sadowski's avatar

Good idea! MAGA doesn't understand anything else

LK WOODRUFF's avatar

2 people went to jail: Epstein & Maxwell. He was likely murdered. She is possibly about to be pardoned. We will all know who was president in each situation.... Furthermore this post today is only about emails. Mountains of other types of evidence exist from previous formal investigations, including witness & proximity statements. Evidence gathering by lawyers for a court case involving T that ended w payouts instead of sentencing! And more. Movies & documentaries have been made. A great deal is known & is publicly available. And has been for YEARS. --What remains to be done is a full trial w sentencing. Before these rich aging PEDOS die natural deaths without ever being held accountable!!!!--

Matthew Anderson's avatar

Haven’t you just described a context that hails a lack of culpability by those who truly matter?

If it “looks like a duck”!

But Your concern is actually the muck and mire “MAGA” societal contingent! It is those racist white Americans who voted for an open racist, and don’t mind Hitlerian government activity, as long it doesn’t impact their privilege! Food Stamps are the denouement!

“First they came for the Jews, but I wasn’t a Jew…”

pastor Martin Niemoller

LK WOODRUFF's avatar

MAGA didn't exist 25-27 years ago when these child rapes occurred. Nor did we have Fascists calling the shots in a hostile fed govn coup. But yes there has definitely been a many years long coverup & protection of the rich white guy PEDOS & what has long appeared to be a worldwide sex trafficking cabal!

Laura Lowery's avatar

As somehow born and raised in NY, we knew what trump was and has always been. He’s a horrible person and no one knows that better than his cousin, Mary Trump. How this man was voted to be president, not just once but twice, is beyond me and most New Yorkers. He must be held accountable one day for all his crimes, of which there are many.

Bensnewlogin's avatar

I believe she is his niece, not his cousin.

Gregg Mackie's avatar

Why oh why was Katie Couric and George Stephanopoulos chumming it up, and having dinner with Jeffrey Epstein at his home in 2010, AFTER he pleaded guilty to solicitation of sex with a minor? There's no such thing as a minor prostitute, it's called R*PE!

Cathy (W. Michigan)'s avatar

Does anyone still wonder if Epstein committed suicide or was murdered??

Debra Powers's avatar

Or is still alive? Maybe he agreed to go to an undisclosed location and live out his life in luxury. I mean did anybody see his body? If they can murder him, they can also make him disappear.

Change Champion's avatar

Of course Nancy Mace would back out. For someone who was a victim of assault , she sure is not a supporter of other victims.

Matthew Anderson's avatar

You’re witnessing the power of political system held captive by capital! My gosh…the newly anointed “techno-autocracy” has that clinically acknowledged disease that disallows the understanding of “empathy”! Trust me…the human species cannot long endure without empathy! “1984”…”Brave New World”!

Sally O’Brien's avatar

Has anyone seen proof that Nancy Mace is a victim of assault ? The police report? She is, after all a Republican, a species known to lie.

Matthew Anderson's avatar

You tell um Sally!!!!🤔

Jacqueline Patterson's avatar

Technically 2 people went to prison. One died though.

Ann's avatar

And the other is now in a camp in Texas for privileged criminals and she’s been given a puppy to play with.

Jacqueline Patterson's avatar

A F?!$&ing puppy! They didn’t go talk to the victims, they talked to the perpetrator…. Because they are all criminals and we live in a crime centric society where you can literally do whatever you want if you have money. #IHateItHere

Kai Kinzer's avatar

And trump has 34 felonies

Peter Tey's avatar

People have forgiven and forgotten his FELONIES, other MISDEEDS, bad language about women__They will do the same here _____I am skeptical. He just KNEW, but did not participate.

After all he is their messiah

James's avatar

If he knew and did nothing, he’s an accessory (before and/or after the fact), which makes him as guilty as any of the principals. The question is whether anyone has the sack to do anything about it. He’s been daring anyone to stop him for years, and so far I haven’t seen any takers.

LK WOODRUFF's avatar

Then we all need to finally OPEN THEIR MINDS & EYES!!! Remember they have been lied to for years by their REP politicians & fed planned purposeful propaganda the past approx 50 years.....

carolyn semiglasow's avatar

He may not have barked before...but I want to hear the liar yelp all the way to jail now.

Jose F Guerra's avatar

No one is surprised anymore that the property and the sleaziness of that tangerine TACO pedophile. And while it's good that these emails are out in the open, it won't matter. Democrats should focus more on getting ready for winning the midterms. The MAGA base is never ever going to go against their idol. They will go down with the ship. They are too emotionally invested in him now to turn back. That's what cultists do. So yes, great that the emails are out. Now, let's go win the midterms.

Tobechukwu Olumba's avatar

Trump is the first President to act as a criminalized felon after he was found guilty on all 34 counts of sexual abuse.

Debra Powers's avatar

He was found guilty of 34 felony counts of Falsifying Business Records, not sex offenses! And though E. Jean Carroll accused him of rape, her case was actually a civil case where she was seeking damages, it was not a criminal case. He was found liable for Sexual Abuse of Ms Carroll, and she was awarded millions in damages.

Bensnewlogin's avatar

Here is a big problem, Mike, which you don’t mention. At least I think it’s a big problem. But I can’t be sure, because I don’t know the group or where they got the information.

This is from a group called “oversight dems” on twitster.

“ Oversight Dems have received new emails from Jeffrey Epstein’s estate that raise serious questions about Donald Trump and his knowledge of Epstein’s horrific crimes.” there are four very important words that most people are going to skip over, but they’re the first thing I noticed.

FROM JEFFREY EPSTEIN‘S ESTATE.

It sounds to me like this information has been freely available for quite a while, but not released until now. Everything else you had to say about justice and the FBI and the people associated with them is true, but it seems to me that this just underlines it.

Melissa Solley's avatar

I wish you could’ve heard my laugh when I read that. Oh, it was so good. 🤭

Mike Nellis's avatar

New feature for Substack to add

Tranquil Rain's avatar

I find it interesting & ironic that the advice given to Epstein was “Let him hang himself” when later in prison Epstein supposedly hangs himself! This convinces me even more that someone from the inside staged that hanging. It wasn’t suicide. It was murder. Revenge. Trump might not have done it himself but I guarantee you it was orchestrated by him.

Matthew Anderson's avatar

Don’t re-define “cognitive dissonance” for them!

By every measure, the AIPAC weakened and compromised Congress, the less than “Supreme” Court and MAGA…the uninformed, uneducated and unintelligent “ignoratti”…are all culpable, and should be help culpable for destruction of the last dying vestiges of our faux democracy!

Steve's avatar

What "by every measure(s)" are those?