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MDL's avatar

What concerns me is that those six names that were just revealed will mean nothing to half of the American public. They've never heard of these men and they don't know a lot of the sordid, awful details that have been unearthed, especially recently.

I mean, Starmer is rumored to be stepping down any moment because he knowingly appointed a man who had connections to Epstein. It was a fatal error in judgment but he's paying for it. As he should. Yet, we're just allowing men like Lutnik to lie even as it's revealed he had a business connection with Epstein. This is madness!

JK Johnson's avatar

Michael Cohen may know a lot too…

Anaylsis Stack's avatar

It was not only Mitch McConnell who appointed monstrous justices, but the gift by Chuck Schumer to Mitch of ten appointments for nothing in return.

PG's avatar

Mike, don't be angry and exhausted.

It is the same scandal and the same story. But here's the part you left out.

There are voters that are supporting this.

No voter supports Jeffery Epstein or what he did. BUT....they clearly support having a criminal justice system that has two tiers. Just as they want everything to have two tiers- one for them, and a lesser one for everyone else.

That's what they voted for. That's what they KEEP voting for.

That's how we got here.

We need just a few more voters out there to stop voting that way, and/or a few more non-voters to get off their asses. That's it. The Epstein class will keep on keeping on until we (Democrats) replace the enablers with people that will actually go after these guys. Because that dovetails with taking power away from the Epstein class, and that includes taking back the wealth they've taken away from the Bottom 90% and returning it to us. That's it.

Leslie Kramer's avatar

Do those voters know and understand that they're supporting this? When typical Americans are confronted with any issue, they get tend to get confused and overwhelmed, the fallback being reaction rather than reasoning. The bs editorial phrase “the devil you know…” illustrates this. Vote republican because they’ve always voted self-interest rather than thinking more broadly about “for the good of the community,” etc. will the people recognize this astrometric theft when/if we have elections? Will we finally see change when white Americans see what's been happening? How can the “Epstein” class be held accountable, and be dismantled? Why, oh why can’t we get a decent night's sleep? And, Katie, if/when I get arrested for being 71 and standing out against ICE in public, do you have a license to practice law in Massachusetts, so that you can defend me? 💕

PG's avatar

Enough of the voters understand exactly what they are supporting.

There are a chunk of voters that are reflexively anti-incumbent because for them (for most of the Bottom 90%) nothing is ever improving. They just take it out on whomever is in office.

The people I'm talking about can clearly see that Trump is an avatar of white/male/Christian privilege, and they WANT THAT. They can clearly see that Trump is an avatar of a two tiered justice system, and they WANT THAT.

The key thing is that they think that association with the Epstein Class- either by demographics or by supporting it- means that they will be the beneficiaries of that two tiered system as well. THAT is what they are voting FOR.

That changes if they ever figure out that just "supporting" the Epstein Class doesn't cut it. They have to be an actual member for it to count. That membership is limited to being a member of the Top 1%. And they aren't part of that club.

Pamela Fender's avatar

Why has nobody asked Nutlick, “ You lived next door to Epstein. How often did you see girls coming in and out of his house?”

Bensnewlogin's avatar

Because it's not a question that he has to answer truthfully, and it's not a question our castrated news media will ask.

Gregg's avatar

Six names just announced by Khana

Dave Eddy's avatar

I wish McConnell a slow lingering, painful, natural death in bed, so that while he's in Hell on Earth, he'll have plenty of time to ruminate on 'God', 'Hell', & such.

Terese Lane's avatar

Would you guys please list the names you are referring to I have no idea who you were talking about

Dave Eddy's avatar

Tell 'em 'Fuck You, & Figure it out, your problem now jerkoffs'.

Mason Frichette's avatar

Mike, I won't do it, but I'm virtually certain that I could become a wealthy person betting on a lack of accountability for all* of the administration's worst criminals if and when the Democrats regain control of the government. First, unless he dies suddenly, I fully expect Trump to issue universal administration pardons. If he is smart (he's not), he has already signed the pardons and won't issue them until it is necessary.

When I hear you and Glenn Kirschner talk about all the accountability there will be my response is divided into parts. First, part. Trump pardons. Second part: Have you seen the Democratic Party in the last decade? There is no reason to believe that the Democrats in Congress will upgrade their leadership. Schumer and Jeffries? Please. OK, Schumer should be gone, he's already 75-years-old. Third part: This will depend on the Democrat who is elected president. My expectation is that we will hear an endless message that we have to heal. We can't live in the past. We will have to end our second long national nightmare. How did that work out the first time? It was the US taking the exit ramp from any possibility of accountability for a president, because we pretended the country would dry up and blow away or explode if we ever tried to hold a sitting president accountable when there was any chance it would actually happen. The 2/3 majority needed to convict an impeached president makes it impossible in the foreseeable future. (The next 1,000 years or so!)

I could go on, but the above should take care of any accountability.

*There may be officials who fall out of favor with Trump -- not clemency for them.

menehune's avatar

Aloha on the coconut wireless..... democrocydocket......"A list of seven voting laws every blue state should enact. While I stand by all seven, I want to highlight three:..... 1. Ban third-party voter challenges and other forms of vigilantism...... States must prohibit anyone — including the federal government — from challenging a person’s voter registration or right to vote. For years, Republicans have compiled private voter databases to challenge voters they want removed from the rolls. Now, the federal government is attempting to do the same. This practice of allowing voter challenges should be banned outright by every blue state.... 2. Provide criminal and civil remedies for voter intimidation.................... States must enact new laws that provide stronger protections against voter harassment and intimidation. These laws must allow for both civil and criminal remedies and cover a broad range of threats. Federal laws are not broad enough to address current threats. Existing state laws often fail to account for newer intimidation tactics. States need to adopt the broadest measures possible............................................ 3. Revise and strengthen election-certification laws... We must recognize that the weakest point in our election process is often the post-election counting and certification phase. Blue-state certification laws must be updated with modern language that unambiguously defines certification as a ministerial duty. These laws should allow private parties and state officials to sue to compel certification and impose criminal penalties on election deniers. State courts should also be empowered to certify elections when election officials fail to meet their obligations.... With Congress now negotiating funding priorities for the coming year, I offer the following four suggestions for new federal laws:... 1. Prohibit federal law enforcement or the Department of Justice from operating within 500 feet of any polling place, counting location or election office...... Federal law enforcement must be barred from engaging in any legal or law enforcement activity near anyone casting a ballot, administering an election, or counting or certifying votes............................................... 2. Prohibit federal officials from taking investigative steps involving elections from 30 days before Election Day until one week after the last member of the new Congress is seated.... . For years, the DOJ has maintained a policy against making public criminal investigations involving candidates or voting in the run-up to Election Day. That policy is insufficient. Congress should codify a ban on any investigative steps — public or private — during this period............................................................... 3. Require that any criminal grand jury subpoena, arrest or search warrant involving elections be sought by the Senate-confirmed U.S. attorney for the district where the activity occurs....... Donald Trump has attempted to circumvent U.S. attorney offices to pursue political investigations and prosecutions. For example, the search warrant in Fulton County was sought by the U.S. attorney in Missouri, not by federal prosecutors in Georgia. Congress should prohibit this. Only the Senate-confirmed U.S. attorney for the relevant district should be authorized to seek such actions. If no U.S. attorney has been confirmed, approval should be required from the longest-serving federal prosecutor in that office............................................. 4. Remove immunity from federal, state and local election officials for any action that interferes with or denies a qualified voter the right to vote or have their ballot counted.......... Officials who disenfranchise voters should not be able to hide behind official immunity. Allowing lawsuits against election deniers for voter suppression or vote denial would create a powerful deterrent against such conduct................................................................. None of these steps alone will guarantee a free and fair election in 2026. Taken together, however, they weaken the hand of those seeking to undermine the will of the voters while empowering those committed to protecting democracy". democracycocket

Mason Frichette's avatar

Thinking you'll never be held accountable? Now, why would anyone think that could happen in this country? Gee, I can't imagine.

david ludden's avatar

For my brothers, and sisters of privilege, who feel guilt, or don't, for having a level of access that so many have so long sought. If you don't use it to protect, lift up peeps, or help them voice their woes, you should feel guilty. If you don't like that, you should become an activist for equality.

Cherylee Bowerbank's avatar

How about remember the MOB. THIS IS HOW THE MOB WORKS

Bensnewlogin's avatar

The way I see it, this is only a problem possibly for Lutnick. Darnold has never had a problem underbussing anyone. Darnold wins regardless of what happens. If Lutnick goes, there's always another toad to replace him. And thenDarnold and say he did something about the problem, except his own thousands of mentions. If he stays, there is no cost to him politically.

But if Lutnick goes, and if Starmer resigns, maybe, just maybe there will be a chance that retribution will be coming, if anybody in Congress has more than one vertebra

Robert Rella's avatar

Might well be white men privilege, but it’s also clearly malignant narcissism which might be a white mans issue, but thank God bit all white mem! Just eat too many in power

Cactus's avatar

The muzzle goes gray first