I’m not afraid to say it, Charlie was not a good person. He thrived on hate. He influenced thousands to be haters. He was a Christian nationalist who spewed hate, racism, division, misogyny, antisemitism, he did not follow the teachings of Jesus.
Charlie Kirk died standing up for what he believed in. He believed that there would be some deaths in order to protect our second amendment rights.
What he didn’t believe in was empathy.
But much like so many other MAGA Republicans in this country, he didn’t expect it would be he who suffers.
Just like the farmers who believed it would be others that would suffer the fate of Trump‘s tariffs and it was their bigotry and hate that Drove them to vote for Trump.
Much like the people who have seen their loved ones pulled off the street and sent to detention centers, they always thought it would be someone else who deserved it.
Or the people who are all for Medicaid and SNAP benefit cuts because they don’t want people who “don’t deserve it” To get those benefits only to find out that they will suffer from those same cuts.
I don’t wish anyone to suffer, it is a sad reality that there are people who will have to suffer as penance for the choices they make to hate.
Charlie Kirk was his self proclaimed Christian nationalist, much of that ideology is based on hate, racism, bigotry, and white supremacy. It’s a death cult.
He has poisoned the mind of way too many young people in this country.
I do not condone gun violence, I hate it.
But more than anything, I hate hate.
“Gun deaths are worth it to preserve the second amendment”—Charlie Kirk
Yes, thanks. The list of who and what he hated was never ending. People don’t need to celebrate but they shouldn’t act like his hatred is a loss to our world.
And thank you for your thanks. I’m not sure it was people he hated as much as people he despised. Not all bigotry is hate. So much of it is the always present, always assumed, and always completely unwarranted belief in a total imaginary superiority, as a male, a white person, a heterosexual, a christian, and a human being. At least, those are the usual breakdowns.
For the record, i do not celebrate the violent death of any person. I don’t approve of murder.
But that being said, as I already noted, someone who is no longer important to modern Xtianity observed….
Live by the sword. Die by the sword.
Kirk decided to earn his living by spreading shit and causing trouble. What he put out into the world is what came right back at him.
Nah, it was a professional hit by crazy wing-nut leftist haters. It's an organized Leftist death squad he'll bent for leather on "unaliving" anyone who openly disagrees with their hair-on-fire Blue Kool-Aide agenda, l.o.l.😂
You might want to consider that this was a shot made from something like 200 yards away, using a high-powered military style rifle? And when you hear something like that, do you think left-wing and right wing?
Maybe you’re part of the problem. Oh, who am I kidding? You’re the guy who was talking about millions of vaccines that never happened.
DUMP AND IMPEACH TRAITOR , NAZIS , FELONS, PREDATORS ,AND CON REPUBLICONS EVERYWHERE. YES CON REPUBLICONS, CLIMATE CHANGE IS DANGEROUS, REAL, DISRUPTIVE WORLDWIDE, COSTLY, AND PREVENTABLE. STOP DENYING CLIMATE CHANGE AND FACE THE SCIENCE . DUMP THE CON RTRUMP AND CRONIES. DEPORT RTRUMP'S WIFE AND RELATIVES. BOYCOTT NAZI MUSK AND NAZI RTRUMP. VOTE FOR DEMOCRACY AND THE FAIR DEAL, NOT THE RAW DEAL.
People need to THINK about their own mean & stupid stuff they say & do. And understand the consequences of being a horrible person. People need to LEARN to be decent human beings instead of provocative dickheads.
This was horrible! We need to stop being HORRIBLE!
In the U.S. it's generally been understood that you can disagree and are allowed to speak your mind without fear of retaliation, up to and including assassination. That's what We the People call "free speech." But here on the subject of "the fringe left," you don't seem to have gotten the memo. ;-)
Except here in the U.S. we are no longer free to speak anything at all that disagrees with your Dear Leader without staggering retaliation, punishment, etc. We are no longer allowed to speak our minds at all….. you are totally programmed, bozo. You are exactly why Trump says he loves the uneducated.
L.o.l.-- You completely FAILED to mention the Biden administration's very first task: CENSOR anyone who didn't agree with the apparatchiks controlling him. Look at how your darling George Soros pussywhipped Mark Suckered-Berg into controlling FaceCrook, another Israeli tool for taming the citizens of the United States. Look at how no one could say anything negative about the CONVid quackcines. Amazing how you idiot LIBTARDS NEVER mention any of these facts of recent history ;-)
Fringe left? So you believe that the person responsible was a lefty? Proof or stfu.
Most if not all of the shooters of memorable past have been from the other side. The conservatives are the ones that resort to violence more easily than warming a can of soup.
As for my own opinion, which last time I checked was still protected by the first amendment, it is that nobody should be doing this to anyone. But hiding it from view makes it easier for the next tragedy to happen. So look at it, recoil from it, learn from it and alter your behavior to avoid meeting that outcome either as a victim or as a violence bringer.
But if you are incapable of such lessons, may mother Mary help your soul. Jesus certainly hasn’t done you any good.
Dear "Mother Mary Jean pSmith:" I refer to the snarky comment made at the beginning by the author of this cyanotic substack calling any other less-than-far-left news publication than that put out by the corporate mainstream media "the fringe" this or the "fringe" that-- right or left. Doesn't matter. As if Nellis has some kind of monopoly on reality, or in your case, it's The News On The Side of Jesus as Interpreted and Decreed Personally by Mother Mary Jean pSmith, and anyone who dares disagree is "someone Jesus hasn't helped" (YOUR judgment, "honey," l.o.l.-- you certainly are having fun playing "God" here today) and going to Hell. Nevermind the Hell YOU bring to this once beautiful planet. Well, this is exactly the thinking and the philosophy underlying why one of your sacred leftist tribesmen paid some "unknown" "at large" sharpshooter to have Charlie Kirk murdered. Watch the company you keep-- God undoubtedly is watching you ;-). Sweet dreams, "dearie.."
When we have an administration that has promoted so much hatred against those who oppose their agenda, it is hard to keep from defending ourselves. The left is traditionally more empathetic and try to deescalate hostile rhetoric. The right more often, seeks revenge and escalates the violence. trump engages and encourages the violent fringe of American politics like the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, and the KKK.
There is an atmosphere of violence and hatred that permeates all of the trump administration. trump has infected the American body politic with fear, intimidation, violence, and hatred.
Steve Scalise, Republican Congressman from Louisiana, was shot and almost died in 2017. He still opposes gun control. Republicans do not have hearts, only holsters.
MAGA-istas spewed hate after Sandy Hook, after Parkland, after Gabby Giffords, after Paul Pelosi. "Thoughts and prayers" for the followers of Charlie Kirk as they realize there is a downside to advocating hate and violence.
Thank you for mentioning Jan 6. Please do not equate today’s killing of Charlie Kirk, however lamentable, to Jan 6 where our US Capitol was assaulted by political terrorists urged on by President Trump and people were killed and injured, the VP was threatened as were Congress men and women.
The Domestic Terrorist in Chief Donald Trump and Congress -particularly the Republicans- are responsible for a complete lack of reasonable gun control that protect us They have taken no useful action in decades on gun violence. It’s shameful, disgusting, criminal and a total abnegation of responsibility. Blood is on their hands.
Not feeling safe at any time is what thousands ánd thousands of people unlawfully being hunted by ICE agents are feeling today. What about the absolute Terror that the children of these hunted parents feel every day?
The killing was wrong. So was the HATE that Charlie Kirk was spreading.
I am sorry for his wife and children ánd also the families of the school kids etc
Trump said zero about the Minnesota legislators The field for who could be the shooter is wide open: someone who has family detained by ICE, a family member of a dead or maimed police on Jan 6.
It's LONG PAST TIME to change our gun laws! No one should be able to get automatic assault weapons, for starters. The process for getting a license to own a gun should include a mental health test, and that license should need to be renewed like a driver's license is. This is the case in other countries.
No Violence!!!
But trump has ordered the flags lowered and he NEVER lowered the flags for the children that are killed!
Never even spoke about the Senator and her husband that were killed.
…and, he raised them during our National mourning of President Carter’s death. Only the optics for 47’s inauguration mattered.
I’m not afraid to say it, Charlie was not a good person. He thrived on hate. He influenced thousands to be haters. He was a Christian nationalist who spewed hate, racism, division, misogyny, antisemitism, he did not follow the teachings of Jesus.
Charlie Kirk died standing up for what he believed in. He believed that there would be some deaths in order to protect our second amendment rights.
What he didn’t believe in was empathy.
But much like so many other MAGA Republicans in this country, he didn’t expect it would be he who suffers.
Just like the farmers who believed it would be others that would suffer the fate of Trump‘s tariffs and it was their bigotry and hate that Drove them to vote for Trump.
Much like the people who have seen their loved ones pulled off the street and sent to detention centers, they always thought it would be someone else who deserved it.
Or the people who are all for Medicaid and SNAP benefit cuts because they don’t want people who “don’t deserve it” To get those benefits only to find out that they will suffer from those same cuts.
I don’t wish anyone to suffer, it is a sad reality that there are people who will have to suffer as penance for the choices they make to hate.
Charlie Kirk was his self proclaimed Christian nationalist, much of that ideology is based on hate, racism, bigotry, and white supremacy. It’s a death cult.
He has poisoned the mind of way too many young people in this country.
I do not condone gun violence, I hate it.
But more than anything, I hate hate.
“Gun deaths are worth it to preserve the second amendment”—Charlie Kirk
You left out gay people and trans people, homophobia and transphobia, from your list of what Kirk promoted.
Also religious bigotry, religious privilege, and dominionism.
And might makes right.
I agree with you. In the words of somebody who is no longer important to modern Christianity, Kirk lived by the sword.
And the sword returned the compliment.
Yes, thanks. The list of who and what he hated was never ending. People don’t need to celebrate but they shouldn’t act like his hatred is a loss to our world.
And thank you for your thanks. I’m not sure it was people he hated as much as people he despised. Not all bigotry is hate. So much of it is the always present, always assumed, and always completely unwarranted belief in a total imaginary superiority, as a male, a white person, a heterosexual, a christian, and a human being. At least, those are the usual breakdowns.
For the record, i do not celebrate the violent death of any person. I don’t approve of murder.
But that being said, as I already noted, someone who is no longer important to modern Xtianity observed….
Live by the sword. Die by the sword.
Kirk decided to earn his living by spreading shit and causing trouble. What he put out into the world is what came right back at him.
Oh, well.
His words are what killed him. He got under someone’s skin and his words directly led to his own death.
Nah, it was a professional hit by crazy wing-nut leftist haters. It's an organized Leftist death squad he'll bent for leather on "unaliving" anyone who openly disagrees with their hair-on-fire Blue Kool-Aide agenda, l.o.l.😂
As opposed the right wing haters, democracy killers?
You might want to consider that this was a shot made from something like 200 yards away, using a high-powered military style rifle? And when you hear something like that, do you think left-wing and right wing?
Maybe you’re part of the problem. Oh, who am I kidding? You’re the guy who was talking about millions of vaccines that never happened.
DUMP AND IMPEACH TRAITOR , NAZIS , FELONS, PREDATORS ,AND CON REPUBLICONS EVERYWHERE. YES CON REPUBLICONS, CLIMATE CHANGE IS DANGEROUS, REAL, DISRUPTIVE WORLDWIDE, COSTLY, AND PREVENTABLE. STOP DENYING CLIMATE CHANGE AND FACE THE SCIENCE . DUMP THE CON RTRUMP AND CRONIES. DEPORT RTRUMP'S WIFE AND RELATIVES. BOYCOTT NAZI MUSK AND NAZI RTRUMP. VOTE FOR DEMOCRACY AND THE FAIR DEAL, NOT THE RAW DEAL.
BOOM
We have had more mass shooting of children and people in politics since this president. He promotes evil. I feel bad for Kirk wife and children
National Guard on the way to Salt Lake City - Hah, didn't think so.
Probably would have been more police there in Orem, Utah, had they not been on duty with the NG in DC. Sad? Oh well.
I think everyone should watch it.
People need to THINK about their own mean & stupid stuff they say & do. And understand the consequences of being a horrible person. People need to LEARN to be decent human beings instead of provocative dickheads.
This was horrible! We need to stop being HORRIBLE!
In the U.S. it's generally been understood that you can disagree and are allowed to speak your mind without fear of retaliation, up to and including assassination. That's what We the People call "free speech." But here on the subject of "the fringe left," you don't seem to have gotten the memo. ;-)
Except here in the U.S. we are no longer free to speak anything at all that disagrees with your Dear Leader without staggering retaliation, punishment, etc. We are no longer allowed to speak our minds at all….. you are totally programmed, bozo. You are exactly why Trump says he loves the uneducated.
L.o.l.-- You completely FAILED to mention the Biden administration's very first task: CENSOR anyone who didn't agree with the apparatchiks controlling him. Look at how your darling George Soros pussywhipped Mark Suckered-Berg into controlling FaceCrook, another Israeli tool for taming the citizens of the United States. Look at how no one could say anything negative about the CONVid quackcines. Amazing how you idiot LIBTARDS NEVER mention any of these facts of recent history ;-)
Fringe left? So you believe that the person responsible was a lefty? Proof or stfu.
Most if not all of the shooters of memorable past have been from the other side. The conservatives are the ones that resort to violence more easily than warming a can of soup.
As for my own opinion, which last time I checked was still protected by the first amendment, it is that nobody should be doing this to anyone. But hiding it from view makes it easier for the next tragedy to happen. So look at it, recoil from it, learn from it and alter your behavior to avoid meeting that outcome either as a victim or as a violence bringer.
But if you are incapable of such lessons, may mother Mary help your soul. Jesus certainly hasn’t done you any good.
Dear "Mother Mary Jean pSmith:" I refer to the snarky comment made at the beginning by the author of this cyanotic substack calling any other less-than-far-left news publication than that put out by the corporate mainstream media "the fringe" this or the "fringe" that-- right or left. Doesn't matter. As if Nellis has some kind of monopoly on reality, or in your case, it's The News On The Side of Jesus as Interpreted and Decreed Personally by Mother Mary Jean pSmith, and anyone who dares disagree is "someone Jesus hasn't helped" (YOUR judgment, "honey," l.o.l.-- you certainly are having fun playing "God" here today) and going to Hell. Nevermind the Hell YOU bring to this once beautiful planet. Well, this is exactly the thinking and the philosophy underlying why one of your sacred leftist tribesmen paid some "unknown" "at large" sharpshooter to have Charlie Kirk murdered. Watch the company you keep-- God undoubtedly is watching you ;-). Sweet dreams, "dearie.."
Agreed. Including HERE ;-)
When we have an administration that has promoted so much hatred against those who oppose their agenda, it is hard to keep from defending ourselves. The left is traditionally more empathetic and try to deescalate hostile rhetoric. The right more often, seeks revenge and escalates the violence. trump engages and encourages the violent fringe of American politics like the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, and the KKK.
There is an atmosphere of violence and hatred that permeates all of the trump administration. trump has infected the American body politic with fear, intimidation, violence, and hatred.
Charlie Kirk literally said it’s ok if a few die to protect the 2nd amendment. He died for what he believed in.
He did not “literally” say it.
He ACTUALLY SAID IT‼️
Steve Scalise, Republican Congressman from Louisiana, was shot and almost died in 2017. He still opposes gun control. Republicans do not have hearts, only holsters.
MAGA-istas spewed hate after Sandy Hook, after Parkland, after Gabby Giffords, after Paul Pelosi. "Thoughts and prayers" for the followers of Charlie Kirk as they realize there is a downside to advocating hate and violence.
Thank you for mentioning Jan 6. Please do not equate today’s killing of Charlie Kirk, however lamentable, to Jan 6 where our US Capitol was assaulted by political terrorists urged on by President Trump and people were killed and injured, the VP was threatened as were Congress men and women.
The Domestic Terrorist in Chief Donald Trump and Congress -particularly the Republicans- are responsible for a complete lack of reasonable gun control that protect us They have taken no useful action in decades on gun violence. It’s shameful, disgusting, criminal and a total abnegation of responsibility. Blood is on their hands.
Not feeling safe at any time is what thousands ánd thousands of people unlawfully being hunted by ICE agents are feeling today. What about the absolute Terror that the children of these hunted parents feel every day?
The killing was wrong. So was the HATE that Charlie Kirk was spreading.
I am sorry for his wife and children ánd also the families of the school kids etc
Seattle. Expect the right wing nuts telling us liberal are the killers of society when it has been their groups that does almost all of the killing.
Hate begets hate ..
Trump said zero about the Minnesota legislators The field for who could be the shooter is wide open: someone who has family detained by ICE, a family member of a dead or maimed police on Jan 6.
The far right blogosphere is already blaming the "leftists."
It's LONG PAST TIME to change our gun laws! No one should be able to get automatic assault weapons, for starters. The process for getting a license to own a gun should include a mental health test, and that license should need to be renewed like a driver's license is. This is the case in other countries.
....what you said.....The man was a rabid dog doing the bidding of his rabid master.
“A few gun deaths are worth it to protect our second amendment rights.” - Charlie Kirk
He was okay with dying you all 🫤
Charlie said that shootings were the cost of having the right to bare arms 🥴😫😖