From Kirk to the Trump Library: Navigating Algorithms, Grace, and Boundaries in a Chaotic World — with Mike Nellis and Katie Phang

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Hey folks,
Katie Phang joined me for the very first edition of our new weekly series, Wellness Check, and we covered so much ground. From Charlie Kirk and the permission structures of the right, to algorithms, to protecting your peace in Miami—we went deep on life, politics, and everything in between. Katie is sharp, candid, and just plain fun to talk with. This one set the bar high.

• [00:04:59] Katie on finding peace outside of constant productivity culture—and why it matters

• [00:09:29] Living in Miami, the looming Trump library, and what it feels like to raise a daughter there

• [00:16:00] The realities of engaging on right-wing platforms as a woman of color and former Republican

• [00:23:00] What “swing voters” are really crying out for—and how both parties have failed them

• [00:31:30] Katie on grace, boundaries, and why she’s okay walking away from bad-faith relationships

This debut episode is a mix of humor, hard truth, and the kind of grounded conversation we need more of. If you believe in building community and creating space for honest dialogue, becoming a paid subscriber makes all of this possible. Don’t miss the chance to be part of it.

With urgency,
—Mike