I think it is also the isolation, lack of purpose, bigger meaning and spiritual disconnect even among middle and professional class. The lack of ethics-compassion-imagination reflected in the policies.
Though more of a Secularist, I feel a vast wasteland of any uniting “spirituality” from our leaders. Joseph Campbell (Hero with a Thousand Faces) once remarked that our problems today are caused by a lack of any new myths to guide us. But hi Mike from the Bay Area CA!
I would add that AOC's "mustard seed" parable during Easter Holy Week in Idaho was a fantastic, inclusive of the secular, contemporary call to awakening of compassion and hope for the miraculous.
I think Cornell West addresses this emptiness more eloquently. But equally so Jungian thinkers. I also like Raphael Warnock's take on voting. A body politic is also a corpus, a whole. E pluribus unum. The Bible Belters understandably reject a purely technocratic science-ruled world view and not all the traditions they value should be eschewed. However, they are literalist and throwout the secular baby with the bathwater.
Progressives will never move the needle until they do what Barack Obama did. And that is to take a few years to knock on doors and do other forms of community messaging and organizing to explain to people who they are and why they are better for the U.S. All of this complaining about the Democratic party and primarying candidates is a waste of time.
Kamala is, was and always has been utter garbage. She has no core beliefs. Look at her passing relationship with Medicare for All! Signed onto it for a hot minute and immediately backed off when her donors told her to. Get real! I haven’t even gotten to her misplaced belief in Sheryl “will you hide me” Sandberg’s known debunked sources. “Screams Without Evidence” was a propaganda piece for supporters of genocide, and Kamala had no experience in the Middle East or the vicious lies that have always emanated from Israel. I was particularly angry when she treated Palestinians and the Uncommitted so very badly. I strongly believe she would have won had she been willing to break with Biden on genocide. The only redeeming feature of her campaign was Tim Walz, and she tainted him possibly forever.
Mike Nellis is full of shit. Niki Halley would have wiped the floor with Biden and possibly Harris. Really Mike? Just trying to justify what a God awful campaign Harris team ran against Trump. Nellis is about as relevant as Carville.
Hi and great job to both of you. I've lived and worked all over the US, now in Kingman, AZ. Voted Democrat all my life and am now a registered Independent. I voted for Harris in 2024 and was somewhat relieved when she lost because I believe that victory would have led to more status quo from Democrats. My core beliefs are in alignment with FDR and that's what democrats talk about but at some point you must deliver and they have not.
Mike, I subscribed to you as an intelligent, insider voice although I often disagree. You keep me thinking and for that I am most grateful. This conversation was the best use of my time in weeks.
Corbin, in my book you are on the right path. Healthcare is the financial disaster that ultimately will tip the scales in this country unless major changes occur. Tweaking won't get the job done. Get private insurance and the profit motive out of healthcare. Additionally, regarding our debt/deficit... the solutions that rarely get discussed are to 1) significantly reduce military spending and 2) eliminate the tax codes that advantage wealth. We don't need to tax the wealthy at an ever higher rate (that they avoid), we need to simplify the tax code so that all people and all income/revenue is treated equally. And finally, healthcare must stop servicing sickness to generate wealth and must start healing people. I was a program manager in the R&D dept of a medical device company. I can tell you that most of RFK's message about corporate capture of our regulatory agencies is largely accurate. He might not be the right guy to fix the problem but he has identified the root cause of our substandard health outcomes. I wish the Dems could support what is right in his message instead of throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Regarding Obama, we need a candidate with his charisma but without his corporate fealty and willingness to be guided by trash like Rahm Emanuel and Larry Summers. He was a colossal disappointment. I was for Edwards that year, but even my support for him was weak. When I heard about his personal dalliances, I was disappointed but not surprised. Ended up voting for Obama in the primary because Hillary was always underhanded with horrendous character. Horrible choices!
I’m shocked you both were with Bernie’s presidential campaigns. He has some flaws (the big one being his desperate attempt at making Israel’s current behavior seem like an anomaly rather than logical developments of a delusional society), but his policies are still better than the vast majority of platforms. His 2020 policies are still a model for a younger candidate to adopt.
Joe Biden is NOT loved. He has NO compassion. I can’t believe you even said this. I’m utterly disgusted at the candidates you mention while pretending you know everything. You’re so obviously part of the problem. Hakeem Jeffries is the worst “leader” ever in my lifetime. No wonder the party is in shambles! People like you are forcing candidates like those corporate mouthpieces down our throats. I’m a lot older than you and cannot express how very disappointed I am hearing such delusion. Were you also cheering for Elissa Slotkin?
This podcast was very good and informative, with 2 people who know what the Democratic Party has to do in the future to change things around.
Thanks for engaging! Glad you liked it
St Croix, US Virgin Islands
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Hi from Los Angeles
Hi!!
I think it is also the isolation, lack of purpose, bigger meaning and spiritual disconnect even among middle and professional class. The lack of ethics-compassion-imagination reflected in the policies.
Though more of a Secularist, I feel a vast wasteland of any uniting “spirituality” from our leaders. Joseph Campbell (Hero with a Thousand Faces) once remarked that our problems today are caused by a lack of any new myths to guide us. But hi Mike from the Bay Area CA!
I would add that AOC's "mustard seed" parable during Easter Holy Week in Idaho was a fantastic, inclusive of the secular, contemporary call to awakening of compassion and hope for the miraculous.
I think Cornell West addresses this emptiness more eloquently. But equally so Jungian thinkers. I also like Raphael Warnock's take on voting. A body politic is also a corpus, a whole. E pluribus unum. The Bible Belters understandably reject a purely technocratic science-ruled world view and not all the traditions they value should be eschewed. However, they are literalist and throwout the secular baby with the bathwater.
Tanya from Texas
Hi Tanya!
Craig from The ATL.
Hi!
Venice, CA
Hello there
Progressives will never move the needle until they do what Barack Obama did. And that is to take a few years to knock on doors and do other forms of community messaging and organizing to explain to people who they are and why they are better for the U.S. All of this complaining about the Democratic party and primarying candidates is a waste of time.
Kamala is, was and always has been utter garbage. She has no core beliefs. Look at her passing relationship with Medicare for All! Signed onto it for a hot minute and immediately backed off when her donors told her to. Get real! I haven’t even gotten to her misplaced belief in Sheryl “will you hide me” Sandberg’s known debunked sources. “Screams Without Evidence” was a propaganda piece for supporters of genocide, and Kamala had no experience in the Middle East or the vicious lies that have always emanated from Israel. I was particularly angry when she treated Palestinians and the Uncommitted so very badly. I strongly believe she would have won had she been willing to break with Biden on genocide. The only redeeming feature of her campaign was Tim Walz, and she tainted him possibly forever.
We should be scared of Elon Musk owning all the means of surveillance, too.
Mike Nellis is full of shit. Niki Halley would have wiped the floor with Biden and possibly Harris. Really Mike? Just trying to justify what a God awful campaign Harris team ran against Trump. Nellis is about as relevant as Carville.
Hi and great job to both of you. I've lived and worked all over the US, now in Kingman, AZ. Voted Democrat all my life and am now a registered Independent. I voted for Harris in 2024 and was somewhat relieved when she lost because I believe that victory would have led to more status quo from Democrats. My core beliefs are in alignment with FDR and that's what democrats talk about but at some point you must deliver and they have not.
Mike, I subscribed to you as an intelligent, insider voice although I often disagree. You keep me thinking and for that I am most grateful. This conversation was the best use of my time in weeks.
Corbin, in my book you are on the right path. Healthcare is the financial disaster that ultimately will tip the scales in this country unless major changes occur. Tweaking won't get the job done. Get private insurance and the profit motive out of healthcare. Additionally, regarding our debt/deficit... the solutions that rarely get discussed are to 1) significantly reduce military spending and 2) eliminate the tax codes that advantage wealth. We don't need to tax the wealthy at an ever higher rate (that they avoid), we need to simplify the tax code so that all people and all income/revenue is treated equally. And finally, healthcare must stop servicing sickness to generate wealth and must start healing people. I was a program manager in the R&D dept of a medical device company. I can tell you that most of RFK's message about corporate capture of our regulatory agencies is largely accurate. He might not be the right guy to fix the problem but he has identified the root cause of our substandard health outcomes. I wish the Dems could support what is right in his message instead of throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Regarding Obama, we need a candidate with his charisma but without his corporate fealty and willingness to be guided by trash like Rahm Emanuel and Larry Summers. He was a colossal disappointment. I was for Edwards that year, but even my support for him was weak. When I heard about his personal dalliances, I was disappointed but not surprised. Ended up voting for Obama in the primary because Hillary was always underhanded with horrendous character. Horrible choices!
I’m shocked you both were with Bernie’s presidential campaigns. He has some flaws (the big one being his desperate attempt at making Israel’s current behavior seem like an anomaly rather than logical developments of a delusional society), but his policies are still better than the vast majority of platforms. His 2020 policies are still a model for a younger candidate to adopt.
Joe Biden is NOT loved. He has NO compassion. I can’t believe you even said this. I’m utterly disgusted at the candidates you mention while pretending you know everything. You’re so obviously part of the problem. Hakeem Jeffries is the worst “leader” ever in my lifetime. No wonder the party is in shambles! People like you are forcing candidates like those corporate mouthpieces down our throats. I’m a lot older than you and cannot express how very disappointed I am hearing such delusion. Were you also cheering for Elissa Slotkin?
East Tennessee let’s goooooo!