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Dr. Cheryl Kirk-Duggan's avatar

Yes. Thank you for speaking truth. Moving us from placating to winning to having clarity about safe and ethical boundaries. Sexual, verbal, and violent acts of any sort cause egregious harm. Thanks for speaking truth. How intriguing that greed, manipulation, and fear "trump" justice. We also need to begin teaching boys/men that girls/women and nonbinary folk are NOT their property or their pawns. We continue to tell men to sow their wild oats and hold and shame women for male acts. Please continue to speak truth to power. Time to clean up more houses.

Edie Sadowski's avatar

Thank you for this post! Time to take the trash out in November!!!!

RP2112's avatar

Yes-- we absolutely must have higher standards for whom we are willing to support. However, here's something that is worth saying loud and often. When the evidence warrants it (and sometimes even when it doesn't-- Al Franken (cough, cough))-- Dems have pretty consistently not looked the other way. Platner withdrew, Al Franken was booted out (unfairly, IMO), Swalwell withdrew. And, make no mistake, not because it was the right thing to do. It's because they realized that they would not have enough Dem and reasonable Indy support to win anymore. That is the difference-- and it is huge. While we can't play a tennis match that nobody wins, we also cannot subscribe to false equivalence of both parties. There are problems in both, but it is highly asymmetrical. We need to make that clear.

Mike Nellis's avatar

I get it but I’m just tired of the jump for BS moral clarity

Emma MacArthur-Warner's avatar

I guess I feel similarly to RP2112, and I don’t really agree that there’s no moral high ground. It at least seems like there’s a moral highER ground, albeit still not high enough.

I totally agree with what you say about how we need to oust predators regardless of their party—ABSOLUTELY. I was also shocked by how many people online were defending Swalwell, and then Platner, even after the credible rape allegations came out.

But it seems to me that, in the present, Democrats do have a higher moral ground than Republicans, on both this and other issues. (I won’t make claims about the past because I don’t know enough about it.) And I think it’s important for voters to know that, because the narrative that both sides are the same is one of the things that keeps more people voting Republican and undermines efforts to avert the current crisis or build a healthy democracy long-term

Bensnewlogin's avatar

I agree with everything you said, Mike, except for this: I think you’re being too hard on yourself.

We have to discuss it. Absolutely. And pointing out that there are predators on both sides is simply a part of it. But you can’t demand that the whole thing get out in the open and dealt with like adults WITHOUT discussing that there are predators on both sides.

But frankly, and I’ve talked about this before, hypocrisy around sexual matters is baked into politics in the United States. And England. And probably a lot of other places. 40 years after the trials of Oscar Wilde, the effects of his trial were still echoing through the corridors of English power, still having an effect on politics in England. Before the scandals of Oscar wilde, there was the Hyde Street brothel scandal, where a lot of prominent men used to visit in Victorian England. It was all exposed, but very little came out of it, primarily due to the hypocrisy, sex obsession, more hypocrisy, and fears over sexuality, especially nonconventional sexuality in Victorian England.

And we have exactly the same thing going on with the sex abuse scandals in the Catholic and conservative protestant churches, especially the assemblies of God and the southern Baptists.

THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO PIN THIS ON GAY MEN LIKE MYSELF, RATHER THAN TAKE A LONG (DARE WE SAY IT) HARD LOOK AT A CULTURE THAT WOULD RATHER COVER UP THE ABUSE AND IGNORE IT LEST IT HURT THEIR POWER MONGERING, CASH FLOW, AND RECRUITMENT EFFORTS.

And it pisses me off no end that they’re still getting away with this after decades.

So I’m 100% with you on this. Blow the whole thing out of the water. Expose everyone, not just the Swallwells, Trumps, Epsteins, and platners of the world. Bring them to justice. But not just the politicians. Bring the priests, pastors, youth pastors, spiritual leaders, big businessman, millionaires and billionaires…

Bring all of them to justice.

Denese Keltz's avatar

Thank you so much for this, Mike. As a teenager, I, and I'm sure many many women and girls just like me, were taken advantage of against our will. At the time, no one wanted to hear about it (except my parents). This Epstein class, Boys Club, whatever you want to call it has to be called out and become unacceptable EVERY SINGLE TIME, no matter which party or who it is. Enough is enough.

Mike Nellis's avatar

I’m very sorry that happened to you

LORI's avatar

I believe Graham needed to suspend his campaign. I believe we need to listen to victim statements. However, this is Hunter Biden all over again. I called you out for saying Hunter was a "bad person". I'm calling you out for saying Graham is a "tremendous scumbag". You cannot say you support the Constitution, that you believe in the 5th amendment, and then make a blanket statement about someone, who has not yet been provided due process. Graham may, indeed, be a scumbag, but... You cannot be a constitutionalist only when it's convenient, or promotes an agenda you are in support of. You can have an opinion, which when used provides an open door for others to apply a blanket opinion of you. If you are okay with that, fire away!;)

Anastasia Pantsios's avatar

Hunter Biden wasn't running for office or working inside the government, so I'd prefer to leave him out of it. As I recall, no one on either side was particularly high on Hunter Biden. Ans as I recall, his sins were mostly against himself.

LORI's avatar

You are completely missing the point of my post. Not being "particularly high on Hunter' does not provide an individual with the right to impose a judgement on him, or anyone else, without proper due process. Otherwise, it's nothing but opinion, or possibly gossip. Let's try to be the bigger people by not blanketly slandering others, or dismissing the content of the Constitution, because "no one is particularly high" for someone. As for Hunter's sins against himself, they weren't sins. It was addiction. An illness. As I recall.

Betty Pasternak's avatar

In a way I see what you mean. I do believe in “believe the victims”, but what I mean by that is “don’t disbelieve the victims” and I feel that in most cases they are probably being truthful. But I want to hear about witnesses, evidence & corroboration. When candidates, etc. are quick to throw in the towel, that seems to point to guilt. They are probably hoping for a deal, a settlement, no trial, an end to publicity, no jail time. But I also recognize that being accused does not mean convicted or that charges are proven. I would hate to see lives ruined over false accusations.

1WhiteTree's avatar

I cringed at the word "scumbag," too. No name-calling! He's a human being, and an imperfect one, like the rest of us. It's dehumanizing, othering. Enough said. Thank you.

LORI's avatar

Summarized perfectly! Thank you!

Bruce S's avatar

There is a significant difference between a political judgment and a court judgment. Platner was judged at the political level which takes for less evidence of guilt than at the criminal level and failed. When we try to elevate political newcomers, especially nearly completely unknown individuals, to state wide positions it too often turns out bad. Platner is an example of that.

LORI's avatar

We can surmise that. We cannot know that. That's my point.

Edie Sadowski's avatar

Does this mean that Collins will win by default 🤔!🤢🤮🤬

PG's avatar

No. This happened in time for the Democrats to select someone new, and they will. Given how pathetic Collins is, and how bad the current GOP is, do not assume anything by default.

LORI's avatar

I imagine the Democratic Party will select a new candidate, but this late in the game....probably Collins will win again. :(

PG's avatar

Nope! Most people don't pay attention until after Labor Day. The current GOP is completely pathetic and Collins is part of that. Don't assume anything.

LORI's avatar

I don't believe "assuming" was any part of my post. The truth is that name recognition can impact voting trends. Whether liked or not, Collins is known.

PG's avatar

Fine. Given how lousy Collins has been, I am never projecting defeat. And should Collins win, the blame lies with the voters. A blind man can see how bad the GOP is. We have a lot of blind voters, however.

Laurie M's avatar

Maybe it’s time to remind people not to be assholes. Men, specifically. No means no. Leave her alone.

Dennis Ryan's avatar

Straight-forward, direct. More "content" ,less words!

Ksana Oglesby's avatar

100%. There are few, if any women in this country who truly believe that the the abuse of women is perpetrated only by the members of one political party. The difference, at least so far, has been that there is far more tolerance for it on right than the left. That said, I think that the saga of Graham Platner (and those who are now saying that he was taken down by some "party machine" rather than his own abhorrent behavior) shows the very ugly truth that there is a good percentage of people on the left as well as the right, who seem to believe that even that kind of indefensible behavior is somehow a sign of manliness and does not disqualify you from elected office. I am a liberal democrat who wants to see the slide into illiberalism in the country stopped. I do not think we should, or should have to, sacrifice women to do so. Women's rights to be free from assault and abuse is not a luxury, it should be fundamental to who we are as a nation.

RICHMOND DOCTOR's avatar

WAKE UP WORLD: What is happening in Ukraine is redefining warfare.

Russia, with its army, air force, and navy, is no match for the new way of fighting created by Ukraine. This presents a model for all future disagreements between countries. Soldiers, jet planes, and aircraft carriers are all nullified by this new way of waging war. This new model was also promoted by countries supporting Ukraine that supplied their own new forms of this type of warfare: France, Great Britain, Finland, Norway, Spain, and Germany.

Russia has not been able to defend against this new form of warfare, and there may be no way to defend against this style of waging war. Ukraine has developed a warfare system that attacks Russia with different forms of drones, missiles, and rockets, targeting Russia’s military-related facilities, air defense systems, fuel and radar installations, and not frontline formations; in other words, its approach is not to fight typical soldiers on the front lines but rather to attack the facilities supporting the Russian troops.

The success of these changes shifts the typical focus from soldiers, tanks, and airplanes to, to quote Owen Warner, “the geopolitical importance of this operation goes beyond the destruction of the equipment involved. It shows how warfare has evolved. It is a strategy of disruption rather than attrition that Ukraine is pursuing.” The drone attack in Ukraine is part of the country’s escalating deep-strike campaign designed to put Russia’s rear areas under pressure. Past military planners have depended on distance as a safety factor. Critical assets were relatively safe when located away from the battlefield because of the limited range of conventional weapons. The military base, hundreds of kilometers from the front lines, can now be within reach of remotely operated, less-expensive systems.”

Warfare will not be fought with the usual armaments, and every country will be able to afford the weapons used by Ukraine, such as drones, missiles, and rockets, and the nature of combat will level the playing field between countries. We can observe this in the combat between Iran, the United States, and Israel, where Iran can attack military bases in foreign countries at will with drones and rockets, and the bases are defenseless against these attacks.

Unfortunately, America is asleep at the wheel and distracted by a mad president directing the attack on Iran and not on this new weaponry active in Ukraine.

James's avatar

I agree with your position. However, in the zeal to get rid of Platner, I think some focus on the two Republicans ex’s would be fair.

Tara Hughes's avatar

The most recent and more concerning rape allegation is from a democrat that supports his alleged policies. And why doesn’t anyone question why he was dating such MAGA like women? And not that many years ago.

Rich C.'s avatar

Tara, I had the same questions. I started to see Platner as another John Fetterman of PA. Platner has no track record for me to assess his likely decisions on matters important to the ME voters. Blue collar talk from a guy who started his business based on a close family member loan, so he could collect oysters for his Mom's restaurant.

James's avatar

Now, take that position and compare how the republicans don’t question Trump’s twice adjudicated rape convictions, his felonies convictions, his connections to pedophilia, he and his family illegally grifting billions off the Trump presidency, and his pardoning over one thousand convicted felons. I would appreciate an honest response equal to your Platner comments please.

James's avatar

There has been a massive focus on Platner, who was a former Republican. But barely a peep on these women. Platner is history. There are many more Republicans much worse. I’m just curious why the entire MSM is ignoring these women.

B. Peters's avatar

I'm thinking a lot of this problem of aggression towards women that men in power pull could be lessened if we had more women in power- everywhere!! My reasons for thinking this are: women lack a body part that men have; women lack a certain hormone that men have; women tend to be more into peacekeeping; and there's not a lot of women in power that have been accused of sexual assault. I would love to have more women in politics - in all parties!!!

Susan from OC's avatar

Job one: Believe the Women!!!!

JFrench's avatar

You say "Stop pretending there’s moral superiority to claim. There isn’t. Everybody, at some point, has failed to live up to our highest ideals on this. Every party, every institution, and plenty of us as individuals."...and then you call Graham Platner a "tremendous" scumbag?

As a women who has been raped, and more than once pressured into having sex, one might expect me to be first in line to condemn Graham Platner. Yet I don’t. I don’t think he’s a “bad man” or any kind of “scumbag”

And whatever happened to “innocent until PROVEN guilty?” First of all, we don’t know much about the women who have accused him…locking someone in a room alone? Couldn’t that be a clumsy attempt to keep someone safe…suppose they were totally drunk? And threatening to drive? As for this latest accusation. How much do we know about the woman? We don’t know much about what their relationship was, or what kind of interactions they were into. We just don’t know.

He does have problems and he has been open about them, and they may not be the kinds of issues that we can deal with in our elected officials. But when I first saw him speak at a small gathering in 2025 I thought he was amazing. Very intelligent, very well read, with the kinds of ideas I think we need to move forward if we are to ever fulfill the promise of Democracy. He was forthright, had great charisma and great energy and more than anything else (you could feel it) the commitment to work for a better world. (Something I think many of our officials lack…they are just riding the office, doing the job by rote and taking home a paycheck). He was brave enough to try and make things better in this mess of a world.

I still think he is all those things.

We, the people, hoped for a lot from him, we raised him very high. And now we just drop him from a height? Condemn him outright? Call him names? I think that is both irresponsible and inhumane.

Teed Rockwell's avatar

When a Democrat gets exposed, they get tossed. When a Republican gets exposed, they stay. That's a pretty darn big difference.

Michael Voy's avatar

The Democratic Party leaders need to become aware of, what I think of as , Trojan Horse Candidates. The party has had bad experiences with some bad candidates actually winning only to then reveal their true colors. I am thinking of two recent examples in the U.S. Senate, where mistakes are crucial for the entire Country.

Anastasia Pantsios's avatar

Who is the second? And I'm not sure Fetterman was a "Trojan Horse," just a messed-up guy.

Tara Hughes's avatar

Sinema and Manchin were somewhat Trojan Horses. Fetterman had at least one red flag that people ignored and now look at him. I feared that Platner could end up being more of the same. Please take a look at MA also with Markey a true progressive but turning 80 and Moulton a younger vet vying to remove the old guy. Moulton is not a progressive and is almost trying to come off as one. He is more conservative and could be somewhat of a Trojan Horse ruining our chances with the Senate and nobody is looking at that race.

Anastasia Pantsios's avatar

I've been following Markey and Moulton for a while. I don't trust Moulton. As you say, he is not one of the more progressive members of the House Democratic caucus — he falls somewhat below the middle. And he got overly ambitious in 2019 when he briefly ran for president and was part of a group of unaccomplished white men who spoke up about ousting Nancy Pelosi. The mediocre white male privilege is strong with that one. Markey meanwhile is the second most progressive Senator — after Liz Warren.

Tara Hughes's avatar

And I fear Moulton could win due to the age argument and the fact he is running on mostly progressive policy positions (though he has basically thrown trans people under the bus). I don’t trust him and I think he will vote much more conservatively and will go wherever he thinks he can garner power. Mediocre white man is the truth. But this isn’t a race to watch to take (or lose) the senate.

Anastasia Pantsios's avatar

No, control doesn't hinge on it, but it would be one less outspoken person to push back on the GOP. I'm pretty tired of hearing about the age thing, and even seeing two intelligent commentators in the left using it to suggest legislative term limits, which are a rightwing policy idea pushed to weaken legislatures and allow lobbyists and big-money groups like ALEC to run them.

Rich C.'s avatar

Yup - John Fetterman of PA comes to mind.

Nancy Chernett's avatar

Thank you Mike! This needed to be said. There are multiple reasons that Americans have lost faith in our government on both sides. Those who turn away, make excuses and those who just don’t care when someone is outed in Congress, the Administration , etc. I do believe there are some good Dems running against Republicans, especially Republicans and others who have voted with the crazy man and his cronies. Yuck!!