The alleged shooter, Tyler Robinson, comes from a Republican family, though Tyler is not registered to any party. His father is a retired sheriff in Washington County, Utah. There are photos of Tyler and his family with guns. Tyler Robinson dressed as Donald Trump for Halloween: a devout supporter, it would seem, who donated to Do bald Trump in 2020. Could it be that Charlie Kirk calling for the release of the Epstein files caused him a problem?
Grifting to turn grief into grievance, manipulating the many’s mourning, Donald Trump solicits rage that he can exploit for violence—before there is any proof the left contributed to the shooting. That is irresponsible leadership from Trump. Republican members in Congress mimic their leader in jumping to conclusions whose only foundation is a pack of prior Trump lies. Gross irresponsibility of this magnitude is criminal malfeasance.
It is Trump who constantly and vociferously demonizes the left with his rhetoric. He does not seek to quench the Nation’s anger, he seeks to inflame any given moment, stoking the flames well before investigation uncovers any facts at all. It is he and Kirk that traded in vile, demonizing and inflammatory rhetoric designed to incite violence.
These two monetized their hostility like the money changers they are. They gaslighted the rest of us whenever a fire broke out, and they simultaneously fanned those flames while pouring gasoline on the fire.
History dictates that the shooter will be a Republican supporter. If you do not see that, yours is a delusional world. Have you paid no attention at all to the political and racist violence of last decade? If so, you know the party of violence. https://hotbuttons.substack.com/p/bilious-hate-mongering?r=3m1bs
Watch the interview of Kirk by Megyn Kelly from 2 days b4 he was murdered. He was in Florida in front of 7000 people. They spent 29 minutes of the 32+ minutes discussing how badly they wanted to have the Epstein files released. I think that's why he's dead. Remember that there are some names of people in those files who want to remain hidden. Rich & powerful people. It's on YouTube. Go watch it.
First, as a liberal, the only reason I was hoping the shooter was not a liberal was becasue of trump and the right's constant nasty, over-the-top comments since the shooting that it was someone from the left. So I felt relieved when it came out that the guy was from a Republican family. Also, the majority of these shooters are white republican males.
Second, Australia had the same gun problem we have now, and they solved the problem by banning guns. The second amendment is the only one that I completely regret. Because of that Amendment, thousands have been sold.
Third, the martyring of Kirk is disgusting. None of those things were done when Hortman was murdered, and she was an elected official. But trump ALWAYS want to attack Dems and make heroes out of Republicans.
WE are in a crisis of people operating through a Perception of Separation, which is the root of human caused suffering, abuse, harm, and destruction. To end the divisiveness, we must address the Separation-Mindset, as it allows individuals to devalue "other" people, and treat them as such.
Perhaps a better word than separation mindset would be tribalism. Because that really is the problem. My tribe is good your tribe is bad. Whatever I do to your tribe it’s justified by the fact that my drive is better than your tribe and I am better than you.
Sick and tired of this endless bloviating about what motivated the killer. He was seriously mentally ill, and no other reason, as were most of the others. He is a blip in our world, not a major indicator of anything. These people do this, possibly,as a form of suicide, and/ or irrational need for attention
The political violence fomenting is real, whether any of these killers ever existed, however, it seems. It’s like a tinder box that can be inflamed at any moments esp, as we see the trump regime hoping to light the match. We do need to discuss this, and be very wary of what is occurring.
And Kirk was responsible for this violence, despite his pompous, smirking , oily ease of speaking and sense of righteousness when he says, yes , many shooters are transgender, if you want to count attempted murderers , you can’t ignore “gang” (those other people) perpretators. So he says it in a sweet way, he must be a good guy. And to attempt to say other wise shows in our Orwellian world, up is down and black is white.
“I don’t think it has anything to do with a gun” is an awfully strange thing to say about someone who was shot to death with a gun. I’m happy to argue that the *main* issue is something else, but it is undeniably true that in the absence of a gun this assassination would not have happened at this time.
Its ok if you called for the GOP to do this when Melissa Hortman and her husband were killed. If you didnt save the sermon. No one has to greive or reconize him. Humanity doesnt requre inclusiveness to someone that stood for excluding all non whites.
Mike - humanity is far more complex than you pretend. Empathy is indeed part of it, but so is fear, angst, anger & hatred. Perhaps celebrating a murder is a bridge too far, but acknowledging the man created fear and risks for my family that i know they too do not deserve. Your priviledege keeps you from understanding the daily tension of l having violent, dangerous, drug dealing neighbor. You wake everyday hoping that person disappears, and you dont really care how. Kirk was such a person for many marginalized people in this country.
The isolation that comes from obsessive gaming is also a contribution factor for the social isolation of young men as well as the educational deficit and critical brain development between the ages of 16-26z
SUPRISE! Like nearly all of these shooters, he is WHITE, CHRISTAIN, CONSERVATIVE, raised in an ultra GUN CULTURE family, and is a Nick Fuentes supporter. SUPRISE indeed... not.
The problem with the FBI is, how much of the truth will be allowed to be released with the current administration. Don't forget who assigned Patel to his position.
So, what we have here is yet another shooter who is young, White, male, angry, and has easy access to guns. He was raised with guns. Those pictures? He’s not holding a BB gun or a single shot rifle, mostly. He’s not even holding a pistol. He’s holding big guns.
I have no idea what his motivation was. But I certainly understand the motivations of the people who are desperate to find something besides guns to blame. A case in point was the name of the ammunition manufacturer on the shell casing. TRN. The irresponsible New York paper that said that this was all about trans ideology. No, it’s simply the mark the manufacturer put there. There is no such thing as trans ideology except in the minds of the people who actually believe that there is such a thing as gender ideology, and the only correct gender ideology is theirs.
The boy that tried to shoot Trump last year: registered Republican known as a terrible shot. And the right wing immediately tried to blame that one on transgender people. But he was just another young, angry, white, male with easy access to guns. The same thing with the Minnesota shooter whose identification as a transgender individual is highly suspect. Certainly, he had not transitioned, so he was yet another young, white, angry, disinfected, Male with easy access to guns.
My point is not to blame any definite demographic, but to unblame an indefinite demographic. And to point out that the common denominator in all of this is easy access to guns. Kirk had no problem with all of that easy access to guns, and himself said very clearly that a few deaths were an acceptable price to pay for ordinary people to have as much access to as many guns of whatever type and whatever lethality that they wished.
Would that New York paper be the Times, which, I think, irresponsibility reported on the suspicion the bullet was etched with referrals to “transgender” when it was only a suspicion, as if it were newsworthy, and allowing less informed people see to the reference out of context and report it as true. I’m constantly disappointed in the coverage from the Times, and wonder what their real intentions are.
It would be most likely the times, since they long ago abandoned what I would call journalistic integrity. But I’m not exactly sure if it was. And I’m too lazy to look it up..
The alleged shooter, Tyler Robinson, comes from a Republican family, though Tyler is not registered to any party. His father is a retired sheriff in Washington County, Utah. There are photos of Tyler and his family with guns. Tyler Robinson dressed as Donald Trump for Halloween: a devout supporter, it would seem, who donated to Do bald Trump in 2020. Could it be that Charlie Kirk calling for the release of the Epstein files caused him a problem?
Grifting to turn grief into grievance, manipulating the many’s mourning, Donald Trump solicits rage that he can exploit for violence—before there is any proof the left contributed to the shooting. That is irresponsible leadership from Trump. Republican members in Congress mimic their leader in jumping to conclusions whose only foundation is a pack of prior Trump lies. Gross irresponsibility of this magnitude is criminal malfeasance.
It is Trump who constantly and vociferously demonizes the left with his rhetoric. He does not seek to quench the Nation’s anger, he seeks to inflame any given moment, stoking the flames well before investigation uncovers any facts at all. It is he and Kirk that traded in vile, demonizing and inflammatory rhetoric designed to incite violence.
These two monetized their hostility like the money changers they are. They gaslighted the rest of us whenever a fire broke out, and they simultaneously fanned those flames while pouring gasoline on the fire.
History dictates that the shooter will be a Republican supporter. If you do not see that, yours is a delusional world. Have you paid no attention at all to the political and racist violence of last decade? If so, you know the party of violence. https://hotbuttons.substack.com/p/bilious-hate-mongering?r=3m1bs
He was an anti semite and white supremacist. One of his bullet etchings basically did the schoolboy taunt of “if you can read this you’re gay.” https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/sep/12/Tyler-Robinson-Charlie-Kirk-suspect-shooting-facts/
Lmfao we all new he was a trump supporter but still A HERO
https://bsky.app/profile/trenchdiggr.bsky.social/post/3lynqhqpe7k2w
Watch the interview of Kirk by Megyn Kelly from 2 days b4 he was murdered. He was in Florida in front of 7000 people. They spent 29 minutes of the 32+ minutes discussing how badly they wanted to have the Epstein files released. I think that's why he's dead. Remember that there are some names of people in those files who want to remain hidden. Rich & powerful people. It's on YouTube. Go watch it.
First, as a liberal, the only reason I was hoping the shooter was not a liberal was becasue of trump and the right's constant nasty, over-the-top comments since the shooting that it was someone from the left. So I felt relieved when it came out that the guy was from a Republican family. Also, the majority of these shooters are white republican males.
Second, Australia had the same gun problem we have now, and they solved the problem by banning guns. The second amendment is the only one that I completely regret. Because of that Amendment, thousands have been sold.
Third, the martyring of Kirk is disgusting. None of those things were done when Hortman was murdered, and she was an elected official. But trump ALWAYS want to attack Dems and make heroes out of Republicans.
Excellent discussion! Thank you for this.
TL:DR The shooter was a radicalized MAGA who grew up with and had easy access to guns.
As confirmed by Grok!
https://bsky.app/profile/trenchdiggr.bsky.social/post/3lynqhqpe7k2w
And groyper gamers:
https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/gamers-claim-writing-on-bullet-casings-in-charlie-kirk-shooting-are-from-helldivers-2-video-game/
And we have a president with mental health issue, perpetrating separation, divisiveness, and hate... and too many people saying, "He gets me!"
Unfortunately, when they say that, they are right.
I watched RFK's assassination in L.A. (I'm old). It's had a lifelong impact.
Excellent discussion!
WE are in a crisis of people operating through a Perception of Separation, which is the root of human caused suffering, abuse, harm, and destruction. To end the divisiveness, we must address the Separation-Mindset, as it allows individuals to devalue "other" people, and treat them as such.
Perhaps a better word than separation mindset would be tribalism. Because that really is the problem. My tribe is good your tribe is bad. Whatever I do to your tribe it’s justified by the fact that my drive is better than your tribe and I am better than you.
Sick and tired of this endless bloviating about what motivated the killer. He was seriously mentally ill, and no other reason, as were most of the others. He is a blip in our world, not a major indicator of anything. These people do this, possibly,as a form of suicide, and/ or irrational need for attention
The political violence fomenting is real, whether any of these killers ever existed, however, it seems. It’s like a tinder box that can be inflamed at any moments esp, as we see the trump regime hoping to light the match. We do need to discuss this, and be very wary of what is occurring.
And Kirk was responsible for this violence, despite his pompous, smirking , oily ease of speaking and sense of righteousness when he says, yes , many shooters are transgender, if you want to count attempted murderers , you can’t ignore “gang” (those other people) perpretators. So he says it in a sweet way, he must be a good guy. And to attempt to say other wise shows in our Orwellian world, up is down and black is white.
“I don’t think it has anything to do with a gun” is an awfully strange thing to say about someone who was shot to death with a gun. I’m happy to argue that the *main* issue is something else, but it is undeniably true that in the absence of a gun this assassination would not have happened at this time.
Its ok if you called for the GOP to do this when Melissa Hortman and her husband were killed. If you didnt save the sermon. No one has to greive or reconize him. Humanity doesnt requre inclusiveness to someone that stood for excluding all non whites.
Mike - humanity is far more complex than you pretend. Empathy is indeed part of it, but so is fear, angst, anger & hatred. Perhaps celebrating a murder is a bridge too far, but acknowledging the man created fear and risks for my family that i know they too do not deserve. Your priviledege keeps you from understanding the daily tension of l having violent, dangerous, drug dealing neighbor. You wake everyday hoping that person disappears, and you dont really care how. Kirk was such a person for many marginalized people in this country.
The isolation that comes from obsessive gaming is also a contribution factor for the social isolation of young men as well as the educational deficit and critical brain development between the ages of 16-26z
SUPRISE! Like nearly all of these shooters, he is WHITE, CHRISTAIN, CONSERVATIVE, raised in an ultra GUN CULTURE family, and is a Nick Fuentes supporter. SUPRISE indeed... not.
The problem with the FBI is, how much of the truth will be allowed to be released with the current administration. Don't forget who assigned Patel to his position.
So, what we have here is yet another shooter who is young, White, male, angry, and has easy access to guns. He was raised with guns. Those pictures? He’s not holding a BB gun or a single shot rifle, mostly. He’s not even holding a pistol. He’s holding big guns.
I have no idea what his motivation was. But I certainly understand the motivations of the people who are desperate to find something besides guns to blame. A case in point was the name of the ammunition manufacturer on the shell casing. TRN. The irresponsible New York paper that said that this was all about trans ideology. No, it’s simply the mark the manufacturer put there. There is no such thing as trans ideology except in the minds of the people who actually believe that there is such a thing as gender ideology, and the only correct gender ideology is theirs.
The boy that tried to shoot Trump last year: registered Republican known as a terrible shot. And the right wing immediately tried to blame that one on transgender people. But he was just another young, angry, white, male with easy access to guns. The same thing with the Minnesota shooter whose identification as a transgender individual is highly suspect. Certainly, he had not transitioned, so he was yet another young, white, angry, disinfected, Male with easy access to guns.
My point is not to blame any definite demographic, but to unblame an indefinite demographic. And to point out that the common denominator in all of this is easy access to guns. Kirk had no problem with all of that easy access to guns, and himself said very clearly that a few deaths were an acceptable price to pay for ordinary people to have as much access to as many guns of whatever type and whatever lethality that they wished.
I’d like to say this is very ironic.
Would that New York paper be the Times, which, I think, irresponsibility reported on the suspicion the bullet was etched with referrals to “transgender” when it was only a suspicion, as if it were newsworthy, and allowing less informed people see to the reference out of context and report it as true. I’m constantly disappointed in the coverage from the Times, and wonder what their real intentions are.
It turns out that it was the Wall Street Journal.
That doesn’t make it any better.
It would be most likely the times, since they long ago abandoned what I would call journalistic integrity. But I’m not exactly sure if it was. And I’m too lazy to look it up..
I saw it in the Times